Comments on: Enough Already!- The Continuing Saga of Evangelicals Attacking Driscoll http://toddongod.com/2009/04/05/enough-already-the-continuing-saga-of-evangelicals-attacking-driscoll/ Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:24:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Sarita Weiderhold http://toddongod.com/2009/04/05/enough-already-the-continuing-saga-of-evangelicals-attacking-driscoll/#comment-1443 Sarita Weiderhold Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:49:44 +0000 http://toddongod.com/?p=1383#comment-1443 I heard that he that he wanted do a Home and Away cameo lmao. Sounds a bit dodgy to me. There's a part of me that kind of wishes this is true lol. I heard that he that he wanted do a Home and Away cameo lmao. Sounds a bit dodgy to me. There’s a part of me that kind of wishes this is true lol.

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By: …a gracious response to criticism « (resonance of reforming) http://toddongod.com/2009/04/05/enough-already-the-continuing-saga-of-evangelicals-attacking-driscoll/#comment-1386 …a gracious response to criticism « (resonance of reforming) Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:44:38 +0000 http://toddongod.com/?p=1383#comment-1386 [...] I’m not really intending to weigh in here, only to say that there’s plenty of story to read up on if you’re interested in what it looks like when brothers attack ... [...] [...] I’m not really intending to weigh in here, only to say that there’s plenty of story to read up on if you’re interested in what it looks like when brothers attack … [...]

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By: Todd Burus http://toddongod.com/2009/04/05/enough-already-the-continuing-saga-of-evangelicals-attacking-driscoll/#comment-894 Todd Burus Thu, 16 Apr 2009 04:37:28 +0000 http://toddongod.com/?p=1383#comment-894 Btw, they (Greear and Chandler) will both also be in Raleigh with Piper, Driscoll, Akin, and others for a conference the first week of June called Advance '09. I don't think I will make it up there, but I imagine it will be the best conference of the year. It is all about the local church, so us Baptists should feel right at home. Btw, they (Greear and Chandler) will both also be in Raleigh with Piper, Driscoll, Akin, and others for a conference the first week of June called Advance ’09. I don’t think I will make it up there, but I imagine it will be the best conference of the year. It is all about the local church, so us Baptists should feel right at home.

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By: Todd Burus http://toddongod.com/2009/04/05/enough-already-the-continuing-saga-of-evangelicals-attacking-driscoll/#comment-893 Todd Burus Thu, 16 Apr 2009 04:35:21 +0000 http://toddongod.com/?p=1383#comment-893 His blog is okay, but usually I just listen to his sermons. It is The Summit Church. The first one I listened to by him was actually his message on Romans 9 at the Building Bridges conference. When I was in Raleigh in February I got to meet him and go to his church and was really impressed. Him and Matt Chandler are the two guys I see carrying the young generation of SBC pastors as long as the old guard doesn't run them off (which I don't believe they will). I know JD is going to be preaching at the Pastor's Conference during the convention week. I think Chandler might also. That will definitely be worth going to see. His blog is okay, but usually I just listen to his sermons. It is The Summit Church. The first one I listened to by him was actually his message on Romans 9 at the Building Bridges conference. When I was in Raleigh in February I got to meet him and go to his church and was really impressed. Him and Matt Chandler are the two guys I see carrying the young generation of SBC pastors as long as the old guard doesn’t run them off (which I don’t believe they will). I know JD is going to be preaching at the Pastor’s Conference during the convention week. I think Chandler might also. That will definitely be worth going to see.

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By: Keith Walters http://toddongod.com/2009/04/05/enough-already-the-continuing-saga-of-evangelicals-attacking-driscoll/#comment-891 Keith Walters Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:38:04 +0000 http://toddongod.com/?p=1383#comment-891 I have heard of Greear but never taken the time to listen or read, maybe I need to clear some blogs off my feed reader! I have heard of Greear but never taken the time to listen or read, maybe I need to clear some blogs off my feed reader!

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By: Todd Burus http://toddongod.com/2009/04/05/enough-already-the-continuing-saga-of-evangelicals-attacking-driscoll/#comment-889 Todd Burus Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:35:17 +0000 http://toddongod.com/?p=1383#comment-889 You should listen to it, he starts making the Driscoll comments with about 22 minutes left in the message. To be honest, I love Danny Akin (Akin for SBC Pres 2010!) and even though I know Southern is the best seminary in the SBC (the world?) I had to take a second look at Southeastern simply because of the things Danny is doing there right now and the environment that is engulfing that area. Do you listen to JD Greear? He is another person in that Raleigh-Durham triangle who is really tearing it up. It is exciting to see how God is using SEBTS and the ministries around it to influence so many people. You should listen to it, he starts making the Driscoll comments with about 22 minutes left in the message.

To be honest, I love Danny Akin (Akin for SBC Pres 2010!) and even though I know Southern is the best seminary in the SBC (the world?) I had to take a second look at Southeastern simply because of the things Danny is doing there right now and the environment that is engulfing that area. Do you listen to JD Greear? He is another person in that Raleigh-Durham triangle who is really tearing it up. It is exciting to see how God is using SEBTS and the ministries around it to influence so many people.

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By: Keith Walters http://toddongod.com/2009/04/05/enough-already-the-continuing-saga-of-evangelicals-attacking-driscoll/#comment-888 Keith Walters Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:29:07 +0000 http://toddongod.com/?p=1383#comment-888 I haven't heard Akin's sermon, I will have to check it out soon, but I am not surprised to hear that he was surprised. I agree that the church in general has issues with a legalistic approach to sexuality to the degree that it impugns a biblical understanding of sexuality within marriage. At the same time I know people who have taken a far too liberal approach to the subject; by revealing way too much personal information. Driscoll does not do that, I have not heard him talk dirty about his wife, from what I have heard he sticks to explaining the text. There are points where I disagree with what he explains the text to say but I appreciate that he has studied and is focused upon remaining faithful to the text. I haven’t heard Akin’s sermon, I will have to check it out soon, but I am not surprised to hear that he was surprised. I agree that the church in general has issues with a legalistic approach to sexuality to the degree that it impugns a biblical understanding of sexuality within marriage. At the same time I know people who have taken a far too liberal approach to the subject; by revealing way too much personal information. Driscoll does not do that, I have not heard him talk dirty about his wife, from what I have heard he sticks to explaining the text. There are points where I disagree with what he explains the text to say but I appreciate that he has studied and is focused upon remaining faithful to the text.

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By: Todd Burus http://toddongod.com/2009/04/05/enough-already-the-continuing-saga-of-evangelicals-attacking-driscoll/#comment-882 Todd Burus Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:58:34 +0000 http://toddongod.com/?p=1383#comment-882 Keith, Did you see Danny Akin's sermon addressing this issue? I posted it <a href="http://toddongod.com/2009/02/23/visitors-not-welcome-akin-responds-directly-to-criticisms-over-driscoll/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. He talks about how he didn't even understand the extent to which these questions were brought up by young Christians these days until he was visiting a college campus and several young female students approached him about masturbation. My fear is that in all of MacArthur's delight to not "rape" the Scriptures, he is neglecting to actually shepherd his people in the areas where they are most confused. And of course, if anything has led to this confusion it is fundamentalism's extreme chastity and legalistic approach to sexuality, not anything Driscoll's done. Thanks for the heads up on this. PS, I don't like the fact that he makes it sound like Driscoll is one of the ones who issues a "sex challenge" in his church. He should be more clear about that; hopefully he will be. Keith,
Did you see Danny Akin’s sermon addressing this issue? I posted it here. He talks about how he didn’t even understand the extent to which these questions were brought up by young Christians these days until he was visiting a college campus and several young female students approached him about masturbation. My fear is that in all of MacArthur’s delight to not “rape” the Scriptures, he is neglecting to actually shepherd his people in the areas where they are most confused. And of course, if anything has led to this confusion it is fundamentalism’s extreme chastity and legalistic approach to sexuality, not anything Driscoll’s done. Thanks for the heads up on this.

PS, I don’t like the fact that he makes it sound like Driscoll is one of the ones who issues a “sex challenge” in his church. He should be more clear about that; hopefully he will be.

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By: Keith Walters http://toddongod.com/2009/04/05/enough-already-the-continuing-saga-of-evangelicals-attacking-driscoll/#comment-879 Keith Walters Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:02:13 +0000 http://toddongod.com/?p=1383#comment-879 Did you see this: http://www.shepherdsfellowship.org/pulpit/posts.aspx?ID=4168 I am waiting for the rest of the series before I draw conclusions. I hope he delineates between the actions of Driscoll and those who have tried to emulate him. And if anything I blame the escalation of this whole thing on all of the people trying to one up Driscoll by proving that their church has the best sex or whatever. Did you see this: http://www.shepherdsfellowship.org/pulpit/posts.aspx?ID=4168

I am waiting for the rest of the series before I draw conclusions. I hope he delineates between the actions of Driscoll and those who have tried to emulate him. And if anything I blame the escalation of this whole thing on all of the people trying to one up Driscoll by proving that their church has the best sex or whatever.

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By: Todd Burus http://toddongod.com/2009/04/05/enough-already-the-continuing-saga-of-evangelicals-attacking-driscoll/#comment-852 Todd Burus Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:25:53 +0000 http://toddongod.com/?p=1383#comment-852 Jonathan, Thank you for your comment and for the work you have done in assembling this series. Thank you for sharing that information about MacArthur. It makes me feel better knowing that and I will make sure to note it up-front so that my words won't stand in false witness against MacArthur. I as well hope these two reconcile. I think that, just as Mahaney and Piper have done for Driscoll, MacArthur can help him to grow into the most effective minister that God has enabled him to be, and just maybe Driscoll can help MacArthur to better communicate with the younger emerging generation. Jonathan,
Thank you for your comment and for the work you have done in assembling this series. Thank you for sharing that information about MacArthur. It makes me feel better knowing that and I will make sure to note it up-front so that my words won’t stand in false witness against MacArthur.

I as well hope these two reconcile. I think that, just as Mahaney and Piper have done for Driscoll, MacArthur can help him to grow into the most effective minister that God has enabled him to be, and just maybe Driscoll can help MacArthur to better communicate with the younger emerging generation.

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