Comments on: Throwing Out Jesus with the Bathwater: Jesus is Not the Only Way (Part 1) http://toddongod.com/2008/04/03/throwing-out-jesus-with-the-bathwater-jesus-is-not-the-only-way/ Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:24:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Todd Burus http://toddongod.com/2008/04/03/throwing-out-jesus-with-the-bathwater-jesus-is-not-the-only-way/#comment-67 Todd Burus Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:03:53 +0000 http://forthetimethatispastsuffices.wordpress.com/?p=113#comment-67 I think your last comment is what's truly the problem: Bell has never straight come out and said anything. It is the same problem that a lot of the guys in this movement suffer from. You can never get a straight answer out of them about any issue of true importance. However, we can make some reasonable assumptions about Bell from this quote. If you ask any Christian, particularly a Baptist, of which Bell claims to be or at least have been, about how you get to heaven, they will almost inevitably quote John 14:6. I believe it is intellectually dishonest to assume that Bell doesn't know this. That said, his adamant rejection of the traditional understanding of this verse (and really, do you think his understanding holds any water?) does more than just say what it says; it also throws a dart at the fundamental argument for Jesus being the only way. But why would Bell do that? One possible explanation would be that he rejects the exclusivity of Christianity and instead believes in a pluralistic gospel. Another thing which points me in that direction is Bell's insistence on the fact that the message of Christianity is not that Christ died for our sins so that we may be justified before God, but it is that there is something good inside of us that Jesus died for and we have gotten away from that and therefore we need to return to it in order to have heaven on earth. Thus, by saying Jesus is the best POSSIBLE way Bell is tacitly implying that there are other ways to do this, and de facto there are other ways to achieve the ends of "Christianity" outside of Christ. So, if Bell is being painted in a corner it is of his own doing and his refusal to make a clear statement must be interpretted as a silent acceptance of something else. I think your last comment is what’s truly the problem: Bell has never straight come out and said anything. It is the same problem that a lot of the guys in this movement suffer from. You can never get a straight answer out of them about any issue of true importance.

However, we can make some reasonable assumptions about Bell from this quote. If you ask any Christian, particularly a Baptist, of which Bell claims to be or at least have been, about how you get to heaven, they will almost inevitably quote John 14:6. I believe it is intellectually dishonest to assume that Bell doesn’t know this. That said, his adamant rejection of the traditional understanding of this verse (and really, do you think his understanding holds any water?) does more than just say what it says; it also throws a dart at the fundamental argument for Jesus being the only way. But why would Bell do that? One possible explanation would be that he rejects the exclusivity of Christianity and instead believes in a pluralistic gospel.

Another thing which points me in that direction is Bell’s insistence on the fact that the message of Christianity is not that Christ died for our sins so that we may be justified before God, but it is that there is something good inside of us that Jesus died for and we have gotten away from that and therefore we need to return to it in order to have heaven on earth. Thus, by saying Jesus is the best POSSIBLE way Bell is tacitly implying that there are other ways to do this, and de facto there are other ways to achieve the ends of “Christianity” outside of Christ.

So, if Bell is being painted in a corner it is of his own doing and his refusal to make a clear statement must be interpretted as a silent acceptance of something else.

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By: Tyler http://toddongod.com/2008/04/03/throwing-out-jesus-with-the-bathwater-jesus-is-not-the-only-way/#comment-66 Tyler Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:00:45 +0000 http://forthetimethatispastsuffices.wordpress.com/?p=113#comment-66 While I have my disagreements with Bell and his stances and hermeneutics, I do not think he would vote for pluralism. I can't say the same about McLaren. I think we need to be careful to not paint them into a corner, even though we might disagree. I just don't see Bell ever having come out and said Jesus is not the only way. While I have my disagreements with Bell and his stances and hermeneutics, I do not think he would vote for pluralism. I can’t say the same about McLaren. I think we need to be careful to not paint them into a corner, even though we might disagree. I just don’t see Bell ever having come out and said Jesus is not the only way.

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